Overleg gebruiker:Thrissel
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--Ooswesthoesbes 26 feb 2010 18:45 (CET)
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Hi Thrissel, I took the liberty to correct the SUL template for you. I hope you'll have a good time here. Don't hesitate to ask for assistance. Jcwf 27 feb 2010 01:15 (CET)
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Thanks for the corrections Jcwf (overleg) 8 jul 2012 01:37 (CEST)
- You're welcome (sorry it took so long but to be honest, for a while I've quite forgotten about it :-/). There are two things which I couldn't finish properly though:
- cailceam - there's some template which makes the entry say "genitive singular cailceam" - it should be "cailceim" but I don't know how to correct it
- Di-ciadaoin and Di-sathurna are dated spellings, today Di-ciadain and Di-sathairne are usually used, but as nl-0 I've no idea how to turn them into "alternative form of" entries here. (Actually the current Gaelic Orthographic Conventions recommend writing all the days of the week without hyphens, Diluain instead of Di-luain etc, but both forms are seen.)
- So if you could amend these I'd be grateful. Thanks, --Thrissel (overleg) 8 jul 2012 02:04 (CEST)
- Could you amend Sjabloon:gla-dag? We usually show the current accepted spellings, and give older ones preferably with a date in a shorter article. Can that information be retrieved? Jcwf (overleg) 8 jul 2012 02:45 (CEST)
- Done. I'm afraid I can't help with dates though: the first GOC were published in 1981 but I only found a 2005 and the current 2009 version, so I don't know at which moment the spellings without hyphens "took over". Moreover, although the GOC are generally accepted by schools, BBC, modern dictionaries etc, there are some who disagree with them and continue using older forms (their author, the SQA, doesn't enjoy the same authority as for example L'Académie française), so that for example gd Wikipedia uses w:gd:Di-Luain and arguably the best current online dictionary DiLuain. I think we can and should treat the GOC forms as "primary", but I doubt it can be said that such-and-such spelling was used until such-and-such date. Diciadaoin and Disathurna specifically are definitely dated or even obsolete, but once again, it's hard to tell when they became so, given how little printed gd material from the past has been digitalized. --Thrissel (overleg) 8 jul 2012 14:44 (CEST)
- Ok, so what I have done is:
- Made the GOC form the main, page, with alternative spellings under the {{-writ-}} heading
- Converted the non-GOC pages into a very simple "see: ..." page
- Made the two obsolete pages into "old orthography pages" using {{oudeschrijfwijze}}
- Added your information about SQA/GOC to the language page WikiWoordenboek:Schots-Gaelisch and its category equivalent Categorie:Woorden in het Schots-Gaelisch, legislating that the GOC spelling is what we follow here.
- Ok, so what I have done is:
- Done. I'm afraid I can't help with dates though: the first GOC were published in 1981 but I only found a 2005 and the current 2009 version, so I don't know at which moment the spellings without hyphens "took over". Moreover, although the GOC are generally accepted by schools, BBC, modern dictionaries etc, there are some who disagree with them and continue using older forms (their author, the SQA, doesn't enjoy the same authority as for example L'Académie française), so that for example gd Wikipedia uses w:gd:Di-Luain and arguably the best current online dictionary DiLuain. I think we can and should treat the GOC forms as "primary", but I doubt it can be said that such-and-such spelling was used until such-and-such date. Diciadaoin and Disathurna specifically are definitely dated or even obsolete, but once again, it's hard to tell when they became so, given how little printed gd material from the past has been digitalized. --Thrissel (overleg) 8 jul 2012 14:44 (CEST)
- And thanks again for helping us sort out such things, because we simply lack the knowledge to make head of tails out of such things and then you easily default into screwing up someone else's language. Which is certainly not our intention. Jcwf (overleg) 8 jul 2012 16:59 (CEST)
- And thank you for all the effort you put into this. It's quite encouraging to see a non-English wikt where Gaelic gets such attention, despite being a minority language - and it led me to several translation tables that needed correction in en-wikt as well! Anyway, as I said earlier, if you come across anything else in the future, just drop me a line. Cheerio, --Thrissel (overleg) 8 jul 2012 17:18 (CEST)